How did your PMR start ?

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Hi Everyone, I'm just interested how people's PMR started . Just think it maybe would help the medical pros  on here . 

Mines started at the age of 44. Following a virus myopathy .Maybe before this because for six years before this suffered with bad frozen shoulders and hip pain. Thank you for your input 😃

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    Hi veronica. I had a very bad cough for about 3 weeks in March 2014 which the doc put down to a virus, it took a couple more weeks to recover from this but within 4 weeks of that I woke one morning unable to move my legs. It took another 2 weeks to confirm PMR but I am sure it was the virus that triggered it. Dave
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      Hi Dave , I'm sure mines was triggered by a virus too. There seems to be super bugs going about now a days, thank you for your in put . Veronica 
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    Hi Veronica I'm very interested in this as well, I believe it is a virus that brings it on, I started off with a pain in right side of neck, and then real bad flu like symptoms had that for 3 days and then pains in my thighs until I couldn't walk, to cut a long story short, I was seen by rheumatologist and was diagnosed with PMR and was on 20mg pred for 2 weeks, but they reduced every 5 days when I got to 12.5 pred i went to eat and couldn't open my mouth and couldn't eat and then noticed arteries bulging out at side of temples and then terrible headache, I was admitted to hospital and my dose was increased to 60mg had a biopsy and was positive for GCA , I was in for 4 days and felt good leaving hospital no pains, but next day terrible headaches,

    I went back to hospital I don't think they wanted to increase my dose so prescribed strong pain killers but didn't help I was crying with headache, I couldn't put my head on a pillow,

    A week later I lost vision in right eye for 15mins had 3 episodes of this, so they increased my dose to 80mg and was fine except for side effects of pred, that was a year ago, I'm down to 12.5mg pain in my neck came back but is gone by about 4oclock in day it's not that bad so that's where I'm at. Hope we all have a good year

    Sorry this is so long

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      Hi Elizabeth ,sounds very scary what you went through, poor you , Totally agree with you about viruses  . Although I'm quite young to have PMR , Any bug going around I catch !  When I was working Id come down with something 3 or 4 times a year. But at one time Id push myself to carry on with a virus and now I know that was the wrong thing to do. 

      I'm down to 12 and half now and get neck and shoulder ache and hop Mostly on the left side for the neck ache. But rhumatologist still wants to take me down to 10 . Hope you have a much better year . Thank you for your in put . Take care x 

       

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       I'm so sorry you had such a tough time.  Losing vision even temporarillymust be very frightening.  Hope you are doing better.  Elinor
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    No illness. No vaccine recently. Did have a knee replacement in September tho. Symptoms started in early December so...who knows?!

    Sometimes there is no reason. People get sick. That's life. 

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    Had pains in my arms for about a month and it got that I couldn't comb my hair, then started getting 'odd' pains in shoulders and hips.  No colds, no virus (beginnng of June).  Thought I'd ask the doctor what it could be.  He listened intently then said "I know what it is, but on the safe side we'll wait for the results of a blood test.  He rang me up the following day and asked me to go to the surgery.  That was that - PMR.  That was four years ago.  Have had several flares (usually when I got to 5 mgs of Pred), even now am  back to 7 mgs.
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      I'm sorry to hear that you still have it after 4 years . You read proper gander about it going for good in most people . But does not seem to be the case with a lot of people I've chatted to. Hope you have a better year  , best wishes , Veronica 
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    PMR is not the illness - it is the name given to a set of symptoms and there are various reasons which need to be ruled out before the diagnosis of polymyalgia rheumatica as we mean is given. It would perhaps be better called a syndrome or pred-responsive PMR.

    It is almost certainly a vasculitis (inflamed blood vessels) affecting the very small blood vessels called capillaries which are found in the muscles and that leads to reduced blood flow and poor supply of oxygen and nutrients to the muscles - they don't work as well and the reduced blood flow doesn't clear the products of metabolism away as efficiently. This all leads to the poor muscle function and aches and pains after overdoing it - like having done really strenuous exercise.

    It is also almost certainly an autoimmune disorder: that means that your immune system doesn't recognise your body as "self" and attacks various tissues by mistake, as if they were foreign invaders like viruses or bacteria. There are many autoimmune disorders - RA, Type 1 diabetes, MS and many other forms of vasculitis, most of which are far worse than PMR as they cause serious organ damage. That isn't to dismiss PMR as nothing - but it doesn't usually lead to longterm organ damage.

    Autoimmune disorders are probably triggered by a whole load of different factors - and the final trigger that makes the immune system go into overdrive can be pretty much anything. There is some genetic link - if you have Scandinavia genes you are more likely to develop PMR/GCA - wherever you live. There are clusters of it occurring - but that may just be that an environmental factor or infection forms the final straw that breaks the immune system's back.

    Some recent work suggests there may be a link with herpes in GCA - but again, that could be just one of the factors, not everyone who has herpes develops GCA.

    I was fit, no viral history close to it starting - and started noticing it was more difficult to do step classes, the spring had gone out of my legs. I also couldn't sleep with my arms above my head as I usually did. Eventually I was trying to use the cross-trainer at the gym and got awful pain in my thigh muscles after a minute or two - whereas before I'd been able to do 10 minutes at least. My muscles hurt, a bit like they do in flu, and thigh and biceps were worst. But it didn't happen suddenly, it crept up slowly. I've had a couple of severe flares - but both of then were really more due to myofascial pain syndrome than to the PMR. 

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      thank you for your input . It hits hard when you have been very  active . I hate sitting around in pain.  How are you with the PMR now ?   Best wishes , Veronica .
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    I almost died after a bowel obstruction in 2012 - just after my 70th birthday. I had a very long recovery but somehow ended up with bilateral hip bursitis. This lasted 21/2 years despite PT but got decent relief from trigger-point steroid injections. Last August the shoulders started. I thought it was from a new gym exercise but my pain doc suggested I might have an inflammatory disorder. I didn't believe him. We tried curcumin and I felt worse. During that time I developed high altitude sickness on vacation and needed evacuation home after 4 days on oxygen. I vivited my gp and all blood work normal. I deferred my flu and pneumonia shots to the next week because I didn't feel well. After those shots felt worse with a flu type low grade fever feeling. One morning I had so much pain upon awakening I knew something was wrong. I took Naprosyn to get going and it did help alternating with Tylenol. Went back to my gp who blew me off as fibromyalgia despite blood work showing sed rate 47 and hgb of 11. I told him, after researching the medical literature myself, I thought I might have PMR -- he said no. He gave me gabapentin and practically shooed me out the door. I brought my blood work to a physiatrist and a rheumat who treats me now. 

    My anemia was investigated and it was attributed to "anemia of inflammation or chronic disease".

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      oh bless, poor you .  I got blown off with fibromyalgia too for over 2 years. I had a chest infection and they gave me steroids to open up my lungs and I felt loads better with the pains. Went back to a GP and she said in was in the mind ! I went crazy at her because I was still going to specialist for frozon shoulders . Drs can be too dismissive. I'm glad to hear that your getting treated for it now , best wishes , Veronica 
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    Hi Veronica, I had vague PMR symptoms for 9-10 years which GP dismissed twice. Often took ibrufen for early mornings during these years. Then I was working too hard doing major DIY at home as well as doing other part time work. I caught a virus and carried on working, then – wham, my first major flare and could barely move. Then diagnosed with PMR aged 58. Other interesting thing I often wonder about – I had the flu jab that was in the media about being faulty (I think 2013) only 3 months before this major flare and have often wondered whether it contributed.  All the best with your recovery Veronica and thanks for a very interesting post.
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      In reality the flu jab wasn't "faulty" - unless you were writing for an anti-flu jab agenda in the media.

      What has happened a few times is that their crystal ball didn't give the right answer. They can't include ALL the possible flu variations and they choose the 3 or 4 that they think are the most likely to be widespread. Every so often there is a year where they miss out the "Big One" - and what then happens is you have something like 50% protection instead of 66% protection. It's happened at least 3 times since 2007 - but there was nothing actually wrong with the vaccine.

      I developed PMR in my early 50s - I probably had ME when I was in my 20s and I think that may have had a bearing - but in the UK you don't get the flu shot before you are 60 without being "at risk" and I didn't qualify. So my PMR definitely has nothing to do with the flu jab! It is probably the same for most UK patients who have developed PMR before the age of 60.

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      I've had the flu Jab for over 20 years so you could have a good point there . My major flare started at 44 years old. Before that had frozon shoulders that would not get better and hips started to ache  and surgeon even said that it sounded like PMR then ! And I was only 39 at the time . All the best for your recovey too Clive , thank you for your input and best wishes . 

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